Conductive Education Classics: no.3

Proceedings of the First World Congess, 1990
The First World Congress on Conductive Education, ‘Preparation for the Future’, was held in Budapest, 29 November – 1 December 1990, and had delegates from all over the world, mostly from the UK. This gathering was organised by the International Pető Association and the proceedings were published by the International Pető Institute for the International Pető Association. A list of the overseas delegates, opening addresses by Mária Hári and Mr Arpád Göncz, President of the Hungarian Republic, are included with a mix of abstracts and presentations. Many of the presenters – including Helga Keil (Austria), Udi Lion (Israel), Claire Cotter (Australia), Frieda Spivack (US), Andrew Sutton (UK), Masanao Murai (Japan), Brendan McConville (Northern Ireland), Marion Fang (Hong Kong), – were well-known as pioneers of Conductive Education in their countries. Well-known Hungarians included Mária Hári , Ildiko Kozma and Eva Beck.

This publication provides a fascinating glimpse of the Conductive Education world at the end of the 1980s and the beginning of the 1990s.

Not only was this the first World Congress, it has been the only one to have published proceedings. Future congresses were reported in a variety of ways but never as proceedings.

Subsequent Congresses

The second took place in Budapest, in 1995, was entitled ‘Continuity and Change’. It was recorded in magazine format. as Pető Magazine, in the summer of 1996. This included some of the presentations, news from around the world, a list of publications (including an advance announcement of the International Journal of Conductive Education, which unfortunately never became a reality), and a list of Conductive Education courses and organisations. There were no abstracts.

Number three, ‘From Creation to Development’, was hosted by the Warasibe Institute and took place in Urakawa, Hokkaido, Japan in 1999. Delegates received a list of abstracts (available in English and Japanese) of all 50 presentations and study abstracts. I am not aware of any other material.

London was the venue for the Fourth congress in 2001, organized jointly with Scope (UK). A selection of papers read were published in Conductive Education Occasional Papers, no. 8 by the International Pető Institute, and the Library has bound copies of a number of written presentations collected on the day by delegates from the Foundation for Conductive Education. A book of abstracts was published as supplement 3 to the Conductive Education Occasional Papers.

The Fifth congress returned to Budapest in 2004, entitled ‘Conductive Education Worldwide Science and Quality’. Conductive Education Occasional Papers no.11 contains a selection of papers and Supplements 4 and 5 contain the abstracts, in English and Hungarian respectively. The library also has a number of papers collected from presenters, in Power Point format as well as typescript.

Move & Walk, Sweden, hosted the Sixth Congress in August 2007 and published a programme, report and evaluation on the conference’s website http://www.ce-congress2007.com/. Bound abstracts were given to all delegates as Conductive Education Occasional Papers, Supplement 6. As far as I know no other material is available.

The Seventh, ‘East meets West: Adaptation and Development’ will be hosted by SAHK in Hong Kong in December 2010. Further details will be published on the Congress website shortly www.ce-congress2010.org/

Let us hope that it is well attended and has many interesting and stimulating presentations, and most importantly these will be published as proceedings.

The International Pető Association’s World Congresses are run in association with organisations in the host countries.

Copies of Conductive Education Occasional Papers and its Supplements can be obtained from the Hári Mária Library at the Pető Institute library@peto.hu

Is there a world economic problem for books?

I have just seen on Amazon (UK) that a used copy of Maria Hari on conductive pedagogy is up for sale at £97.78 plus postage and packing. Is this a typing error or just wishful thinking?!

A brand new copy is available from the Library at £10 plus postage and packing or if you live in North America, direct from
http://books.cafepress.com/item/mria-hri-on-conductive-pedagogy/13389401


Anyone that wishes to buy a copy, please contact me or CafePress.

Hornsey Centre has new name

The Hornsey Centre in London has changed its name to The London Centre for Children with Cerebral Palsy . The centre's website states:

This is to better reflect the work we do, who we do it for and where we do it.
We will continue to run our school and pre-school services, and conductive
education will remain at the heart of what we do. Our school will be known as
The London School for Children with Cerebral Palsy.

and full details can be found on their website at
http://www.hornseytrust.org.uk/news.htm

Adult Conductive Education

After reading Laszlo's blog about the advert for 'new' adult services at the Peto Institute advertised in a disability magazine

http://szogeczki.blogspot.com/2009/01/here-is-comment.html

http://szogeczki.blogspot.com/2009/01/able-news.html

and Andrew's response at
http://www.conductive-world.info/2009/01/yesterday-morning-i-was-rather-shocked.html

I checked my directory and realised that there is another adult centre they hadn't mentioned. This is:

ITI UK based in Buckinghamshire
http://www.iti-uk.org/frameset.htm

Although most items on Conductive Education tend to be about working with children, the library holds a growing literature on Conductive Education with adults including books, journal articles, conference papers, dissertations and unpublished papers too which document the growth and development of adult work all over the world.

Library has good start for 2009

2009 looks as though it could be a good year for the Library after a very quiet end to 2008. It has started with a number of requests, one for photocopying material for personal study, and several for information covering all aspects of the stock here, ranging from the very general to the specific. All in the past week, at a time which is traditionally quiet here. I have been asked for information on how Conductive Education got its name, Pető, rehabilitation, and ‘for everything you have on cerebral palsy’. The last is an impossible thing to do as there are books, articles, leaflets, journals etc at a variety of levels. So, please be as specific as possible when making enquiries.

One enquiry which I blogged and seems to have created a lot of interest, is the one made by Susie about when Conductive Education became known as Conductive Education, as the Hungarian term means something very different. You can see my response to this enquiry on this blog at

http://ce-library.blogspot.com/2009/01/when-did-konduktiv-pedaggia-become.html

with comments that followed, and also

http://ce-library.blogspot.com/2009/01/more-about-konductiv-neveles-and.html

and other relevant postings can be found on Andrew's blog at

http://www.conductive-world.info/2009/01/origin-of-term-conductive-education.html

and Susie's

http://konduktorin.blogspot.com/2009/01/questions-of-conductive-upbringing.html

As I have said already, this subject needs a lot more time spending on it and would be a very interesting project for someone, as its name and the use of the various terms now used, has affected the support and development of Conductive Education worldwide. The facts presented in my previous postings are just the result of a brief survey of materials held here and a thorough investigation would reveal so much more. So please keep this interesting discussion going as that in itself provides a valuable resource for those who wish to extend their knowledge of Conductive Education.

I have also been pleased to see that the number of hits to this blog is now well over one thousand and I hope some of these people will start to make enquiries, ask questions and make comments.

More about konductiv neveles and konduktiv pedagogia....

I was pleased to see Tunde, Andrew and Susie respond to the posting re konductiv neveles and konduktiv pedagogia. I see it as my job to present information about the holdings of the library and leave others with a much more in depth knowledge of Conductive Education to analyse, criticise and comment. This is what they have done, raising further requests for information in the process, so here goes.

The library holds four reports of visits to Budapest by Germans in the 1960s:

Otto Klein, from the Humboldt University, Berlin visited the Institute in 1962 calling it ‘Institut für Bewegungspädagogik Budapest’and produced a detailed report of the work there. He referred to the work as ‘Konduktion’ und ‘konduktive Bewegungspädagogik’ and the staff as ‘konduktor’ and ‘Bewegungspädagoginnen’ An English translation of the report mostly used the term ‘movement teacher’ and after a quick scan of the German I could only spot mention of ‘kondutive’ twice amongst the many references to movement pedagogy. Mention of rhythmical intention is made.

In 1964 Helmut Eckhardt, a doctor visited whilst on a two week study trip to Budapest and had read Klein’s report two years previously. I do not have an English translation of this and my German is very rusty, but he did use ‘konduktorin’ and ‘konduktor’.

Rolf Lehnhardt, a journalist wrote up his visit in 1965, just after the new profession of konduktor had been recognized by the Hungarian State and he does use the term konduktive Methode and quotes Peto as saying,

Seit 1939 nunmehr in Budapest widme ich mich vorwiegend der konduktive
Bewegungspädagogik.

Ungvari and Schmidt, two Krankengymnastinen (physiotherapists) reported on a three day visit to Budapest in 1967. Again I have no English translation of this, but they wrote of Pető’s method, rhythmic intention and konduktorinnen.
None of these four uses the term Konduktive Förderung,(conductive upbringing) a term commonly used in Germany today. All four appear to be positive enthusiastic reports.

As to Pető’s use of education to describe his work, the article mentioned by Andrew is one he published in 1955 in Gyógypedagógia. An edited version in English was published in The Conductor, 1993. Full references for both of these are below.

Tunde raised the English translation of Konduktiv pedagogia (published in 1971 by Hári and Ákos) in 1988 which was called Conductive Education, but the use of Conductive Education was quite established by then and further investigation would find if any other terms were used then too .

If anyone has anything further to add to this discussion or knows of relevant material please do get in touch. As I said before there is so much in the library that could form the basis of a number of research projects.

Photocopies of all the items listed below can be supplied under the usual conditions. Please contact me if you would like any.

References

Eckhardt, H. (1964) Die Behandlung zerebralgelähmter Kinder in der ‘Bewegungsversehrten-Erziehungsanstalt und Konduktor-Seminar’ in Budapest unter Leitung von Prof. Dr. med.A. Pető. Beiträge zur Orthopadie und Traumatologie, 11(6), pp.419-424.

Hári, M. and Ákos, K. (1971) Konduktiv pedagogia. Budapest: Tankonyvkiado.

Hári, M. and Ákos, K. (1988) Conductive Education. London: Routledge.

Klein, O.(1962) Zur Bewegungspädagogischen Behandlung zerebral gelähmter Kinder im Institute für Bewegungspädagogik Budapest. Beiträge zur Orthopadie und Traumatologie, 9, pp.315-332.

Lehnhardt,R. (1965) Lebenshilfe für Bewegungsversehrte. Schwabische Zeitung. [Exact date and page unknown]

Pető, A. (1955) Konduktiv mozgasterapia mint gyogypedagogia. Gyópedagógia, no.1, pp.15-21.

Sutton, A. (1993) Conductive movement therapy as special education. The Conductor, 5(2), pp.37-39. [Summary in English of Konduktiv mozgasterapia mint gyogypedagogia. Gyópedagógia, no.1, pp.15-21.]

Ungvari, E. and Schmidt, H. (1967) Bericht über das Institut für Bewegungstherapie in Budapest. Krankengymnastik, no.9, pp.323-325.

Alberta Conductive Education research report

It is great to find out that this research report is available again on the Internet as reported on Andrew's blog.

http://www.conductive-world.info/2009/01/rejoice-with-me-for-i-have-found-url.html

Answers to enquiries here about research in Conductive Education after its publication in 2000 always included a reference to it and its URL given while it was known. At that time we were having quite a number of enquiries about research in Conductive Education so details of the report went out worldwide. Despite this, I am not aware that any subsequent articles/papers/reports etc have mentioned it or included it in their references/bibliographies. Let's hope knowledge of its reappearance will now make it become a standard reference starting point for all researchers into Conductive Education.

The full bibliographic details of the report:

Ludwig, S., Leggett, P., Harstall, C. (2000) Conductive Education for children with cerebral palsy. Edmonton: Alberta Heritage Foundation for Medical Research.

It can be found at:

http://www.ihe.ca/documents/cond_edu.pdf

When did konduktiv pedagógia and konduktiv nevelés become Conductive Education?

After posting the piece about Ester Cotton's visit to Budapest in 1965, I have received an enquiry about the start of the use of the term Conductive Education. Translating the Hungarian phrases 'konduktiv pedagógia' and 'konduktiv nevelés', (the terminology of choice for most Hungarians) literally gives us 'conductive pedagogy' and 'conductive upbringing', not Conductive Education.

I have had a look at the materials written in English between 1965 and 1972, after which the term started to become widely used in English articles, dissertations and reports. It is not clear, however, from these exactly when and why the system became known as 'Conductive Education'.

Several reports of visits to the Institute made in 1966 give no name to the system, (Bobath, K.; Bobath, B.) but do mention 'conductors', (Parnwell; Seglow), 'the Budapest method' and 'Pető's training method' (Parnwell). Seglow did report that 'Pető regards his education as a conditioning process'. In 1967, Ester Cotton published an article in Nursery World which used the term 'Conductive Education' and another article with Margaret Parnwell in Special Education which mentioned the 'State Institute for Conductive Education of the Motor Disabled'. These were both published after the death of Pető in the September of that year. In 1968 James House, an American professor who visited the Institute, talked only of 'conductors' and 'the Budapest method' in an interview, not 'Conductive Education' (Maas, 1968). In 1971, James Loring, head of the Spastics Society (UK) reported on a visit with no mention of 'Conductive Education'.

James House went on to initiate a research project at Wisconsin University reported by Laird Heal in 1972 also referred to 'Conductive Education'. From this time 'Conductive Education' seems to have become the term of choice in material held in this library and not other phrases, until the 1980s onwards, when 'conductive therapy' and 'Pető therapy' started appearing.

This is the result of a very limited and fairly quick search of the items in English held in the library. Searching in other languages may produce different results and further investigation would make an interesting research project for someone.

Other reports, articles, papers etc not held here may shed further light on the subject, so if you know of, or have any information please let me know!

References

Bobath, B. (1966) Visit to Pető Institute, Budapest, September 1966. Unpublished report.

Bobath, K. (1966) Visit to Dr Pető, Budapest, September 1966. Unpublished paper.

Cotton, E. (1967) They speak to move. Nursery World, 27 October, pp.5-7.

Cotton, E. and Parnwell, M. (1967) From Hungary: the Pető method. Special Education, 56(1), pp.7-11.

Heal, L. (1972) Evaluating an integrated approach to the management of cerebral palsy. Final report. Washington: US Office of Education, Department of Health Education and Welfare.

Loring, J. (1971) A visit to the Pető Institute for spastic children in Budapest. New Hungarian Quarterly, no. 42, pp.140-143.

Maas, R. (1968) Breakthrough in Budapest: an interview with James House. Ideas of Today, 16, pp.110-114.

Seglow, D. (1966) Visit to the Pető Institute. Unpublished paper.

Back in the news

Conductive Education seems to feature in several news stories at the moment so I have re-instated the news feature on the right. I would love to see more in depth serious articles featuring in the broadsheets and perhaps that will come in 2009!

Conductive Education Classics: no.2

The Institute for Movement Therapy and School for 'Conductors', Budapest, Hungary; a report of a study visit.
Over the years there has been a large number of reports of visits to the Pető Institute, in a variety of languages - English, German, Russian and Slovenian, for example. These form an interesting collection in the library as they not only present the different viewpoints of health professionals, parents, teachers and academics but also give different accounts of the work there over a period of time.
The first to come out of Hungary in English was that by Ester Cotton, a physiotherapist, reporting her study visit to Pető's institute in 1965. Her first visit at the instigation of Berta Bobath was only for one day, but she returned after being granted a month's study leave from the Bobath Centre and obtaining a bursary from the UK Spastics Society (Russell and Cotton, 1994). On her return to England her enthusiasm for Pető's system led her to set about trying to bring the system out of Hungary.
The institute was residential and Cotton gave a detailed account of the daily routine for the children which started at 6.00am when the children were woken and finished at 7.00pm. The group, rhythmical intention, and its effect were outlined, along with general background information on the institute's set-up, equipment and staffing. The report included a number of photos of the children on the plinths, standing, and walking with the conductors.
Although she wrote of 'unity of treatment and education' and 'conductors' there was no mention of 'Conductive Education'.
An abstract of the article was appended in English, French and Spanish.
Copies of this article can be obtained from the library. Further details on request.
References
Cotton, E. (1965) The Institute for Movement Therapy and School for 'Conductors', Budapest, Hungary; a report of a study visit. Developmental Medicine and Child Neurology, 7, pp.437-446.
Russell, A. and Cotton, E. (1994) The Peto system and its evolution in Britain. London: Acorn Foundation.

Greetings

I have been having a break over the Christmas period and won't be back at work until next week, when I will resume regular blogs. Just before I broke up I posted a Christmas message which went a bit pear shaped and there were problems, which I hope are now resolved.

In the meantime I wish you all a Happy New Year and hope that 2009 will be a 'good' year for Conductive Education everywhere. Considering the global economic problem, it certainly should be an interesting one!

How does your garden grow?

It is amazing what is in the library here and though I can no longer remember everything held, it only takes a question to make me call to mind material available. The item on the Conductive Community Discussion Forum re gardens made me think that there was something relevant and I was right.

Earlier this year Magdi Kovacs wrote an article about the new garden at the Rainbow Centre, Fareham (UK) and how it was being used conductively. This was published with photos in Special Children, no.180, Dec/Jan, 2008, pp.37-39.

If anyone would like a photocopy please contact me.

A truly 'conductive' library in New Zealand

I have just received the latest issue of the New Zealand Foundation for Conductive Education Newsletter which contains items, amongst other things, on the 2009 AGM and Conductors' seminar, the Awareness Week 2009 at the end of May, production of a new DVD and a mini report from the New Zealand Conductors Association (NZCA). They seem to be very organised and working together well, so there is quite a lot happening.

One section particularly caught my attention in the NZCA report:

The conductors are gradually building up an array of resources for NZCA members. The 'library database' is now available to conductors. This lists books, journals, CD-ROMs, DVDs and other teaching resources which are relevant to our profession and practice and which conductors can borrow from each other. This database will be an ever growing list of literature and will be updated once a year.

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What a wonderful arrangement: making items acccessible to all, no central storage, flexibility and above all, sharing information and costs. I would like to know more about this and have asked if they would keep me in their loop.

Are there any other co-operative schemes like this in Conductive Education? I do not know of any, but if you do, please let me know.

Why is it 'conductive'? Because it takes things that are separate and brings them together in a single whole.

Conductive Education back in the news

There have been no news stories about Conductive Education for quite awhile which led to the removal of the news section from this blog, so it was great to read a CE news item with a positive story to tell - at some length too. Yesterday The Independent Florida Alligator published such a story about 29 year old Rafal Strzalkowski who has cerebral palsy and experienced Conductive Education in Hungary. He left Poland in 2003 to study law in America and has volunteered at the Gainsville Conductive Education Academy.

For the full story see :

http://www.alligator.org/articles/2008/12/11/news/features/081209_profile.txt

World Congress 2010

It was great to find out via Andrew's blog that the VII World Congress in 2010 is now in the serious planning stage with its website under construction. Two years seems a long way away but it will soon be here. No doubt a call for papers will follow in the New Year.

The first six congresses have resulted in a mixed bag of materials including programmes, a magazine, books of abstracts and some of the presentations included in issues of Conductive Education Occasional Papers (these incidentally appear to have ceased publication), which are held by the library here. But no full proceedings. The last congress in 2007 did have a website but only produced a brief report and evaluation.

I hope that SAHK will put this on the list of things to do and produce proceedings as there are bound to be some people who don't/can't go to the congress but will still be interested in what the presenters have to say. This international congress offers an opportunity for disseminating what is going on in Conductive Education all over the world and reporting what conductors are actually doing. Publishing the proceedings would also add to the literature as I have mentioned before in a previous blog.

I don't think I can over emphasise that there is a great need for people to write things down in detail for others to read, share and learn from as happens in other professions , so please forgive me if you think I am repeating myself.

http://www.ce-congress2010.com/

http://www.ce-congress2007.com/v1/main.html?lang=en

http://ce-library.blogspot.com/2008/08/please-write-as-well-as-speak_22.html

Conductive Education Classics: no.1.

This is the first item to be highlighted in the way I mentioned yesterday. I would like to stress there is no particular reason for this choice and the same will go for future selections, it will be serendipity. Perhaps I will do a poll after a reasonable number to see what is known, what is considered 'a good read' or 'useful'. We may end up with a top ten! Suggestions for inclusion will be very welcome.

Dina was published jointly by the Foundation for Conductive Education and Alabanda Verlag in 1991, the only account of its kind, and since then it has enjoyed modest sales.
I have taken the synopsis on the back of the book as the best explanation of its contents.
This book is an argument for trusting the personal responsibility and initiative of parents of babies and young children with cerebral palsy.
Frau Seiffer, the mother of Dina, who is twenty months old and severely brain damaged, takes her life and the life of her little daughter into her own hands. With the help of Conductive Education she succeeds in discovering her own abilities, submerged and unrecognised by specialists, and uses them to set her child’s personality development in motion and significantly reduce the symptoms of her child’s cerebral palsy.
Conductive Education means practising a way of living based upon intense co-operation between the mother (or a person to whom the child relates very closely) and the child, co-operation which gives the child’s motivation a central role.
From the correspondence between Frau Seiffer and Frau Gross, who also has a little daughter with cerebral palsy, and the authors, the reader comes to understand not only how the children’s personalities develop but also how their mothers’ insight into the unfamiliar Conductive Educational way of thinking grows.
The ‘Booklet for Mothers’ is directed towards mothers of infants and young children with cerebral palsy and intended as a practical manual for living.
DINA appeals to parents and specialists alike. It also has something to offer the academic and the researcher. One chapter deals with the theoretical basis of Conductive Education. The book gives insight into the way of thinking of the Pető System and also shows how it can be used in everyday life. With this system success can be achieved in a way which is thought impossible in the world of therapy, determined and fragmented as it is by different specialists.
Publisher: Foundation for Conductive Education and Alabanda-Verlag
Date: 1991
ISBN: 0 9515507 7 2
Price: £11.95
This available to buy from me for £11.95 plus postage and packing - email me for details gill@nice.ac.uk - or via Amazon. Photocopies are not possible.

Highlighting Conductive Education material

Whenever a new Conductive Education publication appears I always check the references to see if there is anything I don't have in the library, which I am pleased to say is rarely the case. Frequently these references are 'old', that is pre 2000, and some even from the late 1980s and early 1990s. Later publications are either unknown or possibly just ignored. Why is this? Journal databases (which cannot and do not include every journal title published) such as Medline, are not the only source of information for items in Conductive Education, e.g. we have the Internet, the most accessible, which offers all sorts of information about journals, books etc., and some academic libraries do have Conductive Education books and papers in their collections. Perhaps a factor is the fact that lot of Conductive Education material is unpublished or produced in small quantities limiting their circulation, so the usual sources may not be enough.

The library here has a wealth of information just waiting to be read, evaluated and discussed so I thought that if I profile items regularly it might spread knowledge of their existence, content and possible use.

I hope to select an item in the library - book, article, conference paper, unpublished document - and profile it on this blog by giving some basic bibliographic details and a little precis of its contents. Included will be details for purchase (if thats possible) or the procedure and cost for photocopying.

Watch this space.

Blogging: it's a start!

I've just read the comment on Andrew's blog by Becky about her reasons for starting a blog, stopping and starting again. For her it rested on the question whether someone, anyone would want to read it rather than on the writing itself. Could it be interesting to others? This I imagine is quite a common feeling as going public can leave you open to all sorts of things, some good and some not so good. It certainly was a factor in my decision to start this blog and Andrew convinced me to give it a go. Despite the paucity of comments, I don't regret it - yet!

Perhaps this feeling of not producing something 'readable' or 'interesting' could be the reason why the literature of CE is not more extensive. Why should you write what everyone knows? I'm not doing anything new or amazing so there is no need for me to write it down, is there? These are probably some of the words that flit through a lot of people's minds. Blogs are a good way of getting thoughts, ideas, events and developments down in an informal way, which hopefully may lead on to more formal reporting, discussion and analysis and encourage others to join in with comments or even start their own blog.

As I am always saying - it would be a start!

Blogs, blogs everywhere and not a minute to read them

Susie has posted an item about blogging, the proliferation of blogs and having the time to read them.This partially echoed a conversation I had with Andrew Sutton about comments on blogs and how easy it is to miss them, probably due to reading quickly and their not being displayed prominently.Maybe down to the fact that bloggers usually are computer buffs and are looking for such facilities. This is a shame as frequently the comments are very interesting and can lead to further discussion as happened with Andrew's item about mentoring.

We bloggers like to have comments too, as it shows that people are reading our postings and would like to talk to us. Laszlo was getting disheartened because of this last week.

So, please do comment and contribute to sharing knowledge, opinions, information etc. Could we say that this in itself may be a form of mentoring and encouragement ? Comments please!

Susie's posting

http://konduktorin.blogspot.com/2008/11/just-quiet-evening-for-conductor.html

Laszlo's posting

http://szogeczki.blogspot.com/2008/11/thinking-strange.html

Educação Condutiva em Santa Catarina: Avaliação de um Projeto. A report from Brazil

The publication of a research report on Conductive Education in Brazil was mentioned on Andrew's blog, including references and contact details, a couple of days ago. I contacted Célia Hoefelmann who has responded very quickly indeed, and a copy of the report was in my email this morning. I will add it to the library's collection of papers/reports on research into Conductive Education in all its applications.

Thank you, Andrew, for the details, its great to know that someone else is out there keeping an eye on publications etc, as it is not easy to keep track of everything published in Conductive Education, in all languages. All such information is much appreciated and helps me to continue adding to the collection of material here in Birmingham.